if you look at the top u.s. kids based on income and compare them to the top kids in other countries across the globe, you will see our kids actually ranked 23rd, which is the same rating as the low income kids do. gerri: that is unbelievable, michelle. that is a real newsflash for parents all over the country, what do we do about it? >> we have to make sure their are highly effective teachers in every classroom, parents have options for sending their kids to a high-quality school program and the last thing tied to what we were talking about, making sure we have effective use of taxpayer dollars. a lot of middle and upper middle income households in this country, their kids are going to school everyday, they think they're getting a good education but they actually don't know what kind of return on investment taxpayers are getting. gerri: answer tha answered thatn could be very difficult. i wanted the degree to which so many teachers are unionid is one of those things drain money out of the system that could be b